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Cesar
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#1434


Hello! I am about to buy a PRC2200 and I am preparing averything.

I will test it this evening. What should I look for?
i have some concerns about- Backup and main battery
Can I use this 14500 li Ion as backup battery?
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Can the radio work at 12V normally? Just in case I have built a psu connector with RCA’s (following the advise on the group) to see if I can connect my normal PSU to iPRC-2200@groups.io | Newbie Alert - On the field testing before buying (3)

Looks like the unit has been bought in Germany
wish me luck
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Peter Gottlieb

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#1435


Cesar,

The best possible test would be to arrange a QSO with a friend. You want to see the radio turn on without any fault indications, have good sensitivity and clarity receiving a known station, and good transmit audio to your friend.

The switches, knobs and buttons should operate properly.

While the battery you suggest will work as a memory hold up battery, the set is designed to use a lithium thionyl chloride primary battery and that is what I would recommend. These are commonly available and inexpensive. Get one with leads attached as you should not solder directly to any lithium cell.

The radio can be powered from a "12 volt" power supply. However, be very careful about polarity and note that on transmit the radio sends an initial tone at high power which can cause a voltage drop in the leads which will cause a transmit fault or radio reboot. When I run these on the bench I set my power supply to 14.4 volts which gives some margin and is consistent with a fully charged battery.

I no longer use NiCd batteries, instead have gone over to lithium ion phosphate. I made my own in old battery cases but it was a bunch of work and you can buy a Bioenno pack that has plenty of capacity and just use it. I attached a photo which includes the bracket I made to connect to the battery pins. This is designed to be mechanically impossible to connect backwards. Make sure to tell Bioenno you are using the battery for this radio as the new versions of this module include an extra stiffener internally which you do not want.

Peter
KB2VTL

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On 1/23/2023 8:47 AM, Cesar via groups.io wrote:


Hello! I am about to buy a PRC2200 and I am preparing averything.

I will test it this evening. What should I look for?
i have some concerns about - Backup and main battery
Can I use this 14500 li Ion as backup battery?

Can the radio work at 12V normally? Just in case I have built a psu connector with RCA’s (following the advise on the group) to see if I can connect my normal PSU to i

Looks like the unit has been bought in Germany
wish me luck

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Lutz

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#1436


Any non recharable backup lithium battery 3.6V is fine. Mechanical size "AA" 50*15 mm
73, Lutz, DH7LK

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SM6OID

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#1437


Hi All!

I use a SAFT LS 14500 if my memory serves me correct.

73 All PRC2200 users!

/Morgan, SM6OID

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Any non recharable backup lithium battery 3.6V is fine. Mechanical size "AA" 50*15 mm
73, Lutz, DH7LK

Lutz

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#1438


.... and after changing the backup battery, it could (but must not) happen, that you have to reset the rig, sometimes more than one time.
Morgan and Peter and all: All the best for 2023!
73
Lutz, DH7LK

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#1440


..."that you have to reset the rig..."

by reset means the position of the knob on ERS or other function?

tks
73 Giacomo
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Lutz

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#1442


Right, pull the knob and turn to "ERS".
73, Lutz
DH7LK

Cesar
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#1444


Hi there!
I have it!!
Ok batt is dead now but I managed to power it up using the power cord shown @13.8V 20A PSU
It passed the test Ok and it receives stations but it doesn’t transmit. I used the dipole selection…No match. I have tested it with a dummy load and it is the same. I of course performed several resets as advised
What do you think guys?
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Joseph Conover
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#1445


Very nice looking transceiver

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On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cesar via groups.io <Cesarleon@...> wrote:

Hi there!
I have it!!
Ok batt is dead now but I managed to power it up using the power cord shown @13.8V 20A PSU
It passed the test Ok and it receives stations but it doesn’t transmit. I used the dipole selection…No match. I have tested it with a dummy load and it is the same. I of course performed several resets as advised
What do you think guys?
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Cesar
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#1446


Update. Looks like the rear antenna connector and the whip are not working. They do receive, but no ATU action. When i set the front antenna ok, then the ATU works finw and it transmits ok.
What can it be? The backup battery is fine at 3.6V
i have made a lot of resets…

Thank you

SM6OID

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#1447


Hi!

I would try performing a BITE test while transmitting.

This is described in the manual.

I would expect “FAIL” as a result, then read fault codes.

My guess is that the ATU is the problem, but you probably already guessed that.

73!

/Morgan, SM6OID

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Update. Looks like the rear antenna connector and the whip are not working. They do receive, but no ATU action. When i set the front antenna ok, then the ATU works finw and it transmits ok.
What can it be? The backup battery is fine at 3.6V
i have made a lot of resets…

Thank you

Cesar
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#1449
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Hello! I did it but looks like that it was not properly performed. I repeated it and now it says FAIL 76

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then this message appears LRN FAIL in sequence with NO MATCH

What is modul cp (*) ?

Erik Finskas OH2LAK
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#1450


My guess is that CP refers to the antenna coupler module CP-2003.

73,

Erik OH2LAK


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On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 11:17, Cesar via groups.io <Cesarleon=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

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Hello! I did it but looks like that it was not properly performed. I repeated it and now it says FAIL 76

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then this message appears LRN FAIL in sequence with NO MATCH

What is modul cp (*) ?

Joseph Conover
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#1451


Is there a manual bypass on tuner

Joe

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On Jan 24, 2023, at 3:18 AM, Erik Finskas OH2LAK <erik.finskas@...> wrote:



My guess is that CP refers to the antenna coupler module CP-2003.

73,

Erik OH2LAK


On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 11:17, Cesar via groups.io <Cesarleon=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

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Hello! I did it but looks like that it was not properly performed. I repeated it and now it says FAIL 76

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then this message appears LRN FAIL in sequence with NO MATCH

What is modul cp (*) ?

Cesar
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#1452


But tuner works using the front connector…
The WHIP/dipole switch works because te selection is shown in the STAT menu.

is therr anything else I can do?

pictured of the actual modules in the Tuner boards
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this is the board where the eeprom goes… no signs of it being messed around

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Frederick Bstandig

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#1453


The front panel rf connector is for connection to an external device

such as a power amplifier. It does not use the Antenna Coupler

which only tunes the whip antenna and dipole ports.

Fred K6KKO

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Cesar
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#1454


At this point, do you think that a new ATU unit would soove the problem? Are they dully interchangeable between sifferent units?
thank you

Peter Gottlieb

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#1455


They are interchangeable between units.

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On 1/25/2023 3:59 AM, Cesar via groups.io wrote:

At this point, do you think that a new ATU unit would soove the problem? Are they dully interchangeable between sifferent units?
thank you
Cesar
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#1462


Ok! So now I have a new tuner unit. Same problem. This is a nightmare
what could I do? I have performed several resets.

the bit test error on tx is the same: 76

Peter Gottlieb

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#1464


This is really odd.

Peter

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On Jan 31, 2023, at 12:14 PM, Cesar via groups.io <Cesarleon@...> wrote:



Ok! So now I have a new tuner unit. Same problem. This is a nightmare
what could I do? I have performed several resets.

the bit test error on tx is the same: 76

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